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David Geddes


Son of John Geddes (III)
Brother of Adam Gordon Geddes

Alexander Mackay Geddes is not a direct ancestor of mine.

David Geddes

Born: 1792      Died: 1867

Father: John Geddes (III)
Brothers:
John Geddes (IV)
Adam Gordon Geddes
Alexander Mackay Geddes
James Geddes

David Geddes was unmarried and had no children.

David Geddes

David Geddes lived with his parents for much of his life. The street directories show that he was living with his father at 5 Grey Street, Newington in 1826. The letter below confirms this. Census returns show that in 1851, he was living with his brother John Geddes IV in 15 Salibury Road. He outlived all his brothers. He was still living at 15 Salibury Road when he died (see his will and inventory below).


Career

In 1826-1832, David Geddes was a wine and spirit merchant in Edinburgh, at 7 Union Place (off Leith Walk).

There is a letter of David among the accounts of the death by drowning of his brother James Geddes (see here), 7th Feb. 1816. Another letter is below:

Another letter (see here) from Adam Gordan Geddes to John Geddes IV (his brothers) on 19 Mar 1816 says "My father would mention to you of David having been recommended by Lieut. Ross for an Ensigncy in the 59th, the 2nd Bn, of which is on the point of being reduced. You will see the intention of it. He may receive his half pay in addition to the Office, on application to Comr in Chief." But a letter (see here) by John Geddes III (the father) to John Geddes IV on 4 Apr 1816 says "The 59th is reduced, & nothing for Davie, owing I presume, to the retrenching Mania now pursued; where will this end no Person can tell."

Another letter (see here) of 21 Sept 1825 from John Geddes III to John Geddes IV, his son and David Geddes' brother (Adam Geddes is another brother), says "Adam will acquaint you that he is looking out for a farm, but hitherto unsuccessful. I have promised Adam a 1000, to stock a farm, & I suppose Davie will require as much in his new concern, & in that event you have all got an equal sum, only Adam, from his former mismanagement, will be considerably behind."

Another letter (see here) of 11 Feb 1826 from John Geddes III to John Geddes IV, says "Davie opened a shop about Martinmas, but sales very indifferent, however his Cellars are full & no Bills yet to come against him, & I always endeavour to impress on his mind that the Goods is better in the Cellars than in bad hands, & if forthcoming the loss cannot be very great, & in the present situation of the Country a Man cannot say who is trustworthy, at the same time I do not think it will last long. It has given a great shock to public Credit in the mean time."


Letter from David Geddes

This letter is from David to his brother John Geddes IV. John is in the West Indies. Other letters to John Geddes IV from another brother, Adam Gordon Geddes are given here. These refer to David Geddes. Their father is John Geddes III. This letter is a copy of a copy so the copyists may have made mistakes. Apologies for any of mine. I have added some paragraphs to make the letters clearer.

13th August 1826, from David Geddes, No. 5 Grey Street, Newington.

My Dear John,

I wrote you on the 17th of last month, since when we have not had any letters from you. My father intended to have written you this month, but he does not feel quite himself to undertake to write a long letter so you must content yourself with some nonsense from me. My father's health is pretty good, & he walks out as usual. He has not fixed on a house yet, there is every chance of their getting cheaper. The house he was in terms for some time ago is not yet finished. In two or three months he may get it for less than he formerly offered.

The weather here has been excessively warm all the summer and scarecely a shower of rain for the last 3 or 4 months, the thermometer generally above 80 in the shade. The Harvest is almost over in this neighbourhood, a circumstance that probably never before happened in this Country at this time of year. Whisky is getting up, it rose about a shilling in the gallon last week. I can't say that I am making a great deal of money yet, but the business is increasing by degrees. If it pays its expenses this year it will do very well.

Miss Geddes desires me to tell you that she has two of your plants as tall as herself. One of them she calls a creeper flowered this year. The other is a tree.

I intend before the damp weather sets in, to unpack your large chest and put the contents into one of the chests of drawers as we have not a room upstairs that will hold it and I'm afraid it won't do downstairs during the winter.

I had a letter from Mr. Mackay at Stockwell the other day, they are all well. He desired to be remembered to you. McPherson is still in Edin'r. He has leave for three months. When he got to London, he was ordered to join the Depot, as the Governor at Demerara had not power to give him leave, the complement of Apt'n being still with the Battalion. Brownlee desrires to be remembered to you.

My father and Adam join me in love to you - Ever my dear John

Most Sincerely & Affectionately

Yours David Geddes

The house referred to is probably 15 Salibury Road (see Census returns and his will, below). This house is also referred to (earlier) in one of the letters by Adam Gordon Geddes.

I am not sure who Miss Geddess is.


The Will of David Geddes

The will and inventories in the National Archives of Scotland. Here are transcripts. I have added paragraphs to make the text easier to understand. I apologise for any errors.

David Geddes - Vide Record of Inventories Vol 133 p. 418 - 31 Jany 1867.

I David Geddes residing at Number fifteen Salisbury Road Newington Edinburgh desirous to provide for the management and disposal of my means and estate after my death do hereby give grant assign and dispose to and in favor of Major John Geddes forty fourth Regiment and Andrew David Geddes Lieutenant twenty seventh Inniskilling Regiment my nephews James Stoddart presently in England & David Lyell writer in Edinburgh & the survivor of them and the heir male of the survivor a majority in Great Britain for the time being always a quorum heritably and irredeemably my whole means and estate heritable and moveable real & personal wherever situated or addebted or which shall belong or be addebted to me at the time of my death with the whole vouchers and instructions, writs, titles and securities & thereof with all that has followed or is comptetant to follow thereon for ever, but that in Trust for the ends uses and purposes following viz

First for payment of all my just and lawful Debts deathbed & funeral charges and the necessary expenses of executing this Trust.

Second I direct and appoint my said Trustees to give effect to the following legacies and bequests viz

I hereby give and bequeath to my nephew the said Major John Geddes my collection of medals.

To my nephew the said Andrew David Geddes my microscope and Apparatus and any Telescopes that I may possess and my Gold Repeating Watch,

and to my friend the said David Lyell the sum of Nineteen pounds nineteen shillings to purchase a piece of Plate as a remembrance of me and in token of my satisfaction with the manner in which he has carried through the winding up of my late brothers affairs

and Third, and with regard to the residue and remainder of my said means & estate except as aftermentioned, I direct and appoint my Trustees to divide the same into five equal shares and to pay an one fifth part or share to my said nephew John Geddes and two fifth parts or shares thereof to my said nephew Andrew David Geddes and to hold the remaining two fifth parts or shares for behoof of my niece Mrs Margaret Geddes or Vernor widow of James Alexander Vernor, Hillhead near Musselburgh in liferent for her liferent use allenarly and exclusive of the jus mariti of adminstration of any future husband she may marry and of her children in fee:

Declaring that it shall be in the power of the said Mrs Margaret Geddes or Vernor to apportion the two fifths parts or shares to be held for behoof of her and her children aforesaid among such children in such proportions as she may appoint by any writing under her hand and failing such appointment then share and share alike and to vest in and be payable after the death of their mother if sons on their respectively attaining the age of twenty one and if daughters on their attaining that age or being married which ever event shall first happen. But declaring also that it shall be in the power of my said trustees at their discretion to advance or apply any part of parts not exceeding in all one third of the presumptive share or shares to which the said child or children shall be entitled for their benefit or advancement in the world but in the event of my said Trustees so doing during the lifetime of the said Mrs Margaret Geddes or Vernor such advance shall only be with her consent

and Lastly I direct and appoint my Trustees to divide the furniture Bed and Table Linen Plate and other articles in the house presently occupied by me (in respect that Miss Jane Geddes Hessing or Stoddart who my late Brother General Geddes wished should have the use thereof or of as much as she should choose has arranged to live in England) amongst any said Nephews and niece in equal proportions

and I hereby Nominate and Appoint the said Major John Geddes, Andrew David Geddes, James Stoddart & David Lyell and their foresaids to be my sole executors: And I hereby give full power to them to employ the said David Lyell or any firm of which he may be a partner or any other whom they may agree upton to be their Agent or Factor for the Trust hereby executed and to allow and to pay to him or them the usual professional charges therefor, and also full power to assume new Trustees into this Trust and to resign into this Trust at pleasure and declaring that they or any Trustees to be assumed as aforesaid shall only be liable for their own actual intromissions: And I reserve full power to revoke these presents in whole or in part: And I dispense with the delivery, And I reserve my liferent right: And consent to Registration hereof for preservation:

In Witness whereof these presents written by Duncan Don Clerk to Mesr. Horne Horne & Lyell Writers to the Signet are subscribed by me at my residence aforesaid upon the fifth day of July in the year eighteen hundred and sixty six before these witnesses Thomas Simpson Bell & Thomas Dalgleish both clerks to the said Horne Horne & Lyell. Signed David Geddes, Tho. S. Bell witness Tho. Dalgleish witness, Edinburgh 24 Jany 1867. This is the Disposition & Settlement referred to in my Deposition of this date.

(signed) Dav Lyell
(signed) D. Horne J.P.


Edinburgh 10 January 1867 - We hereby accept of the office of Trustee & Executor within conferred utpon us


(signed) John Geddes Major 44 Reg
(signed) James Stoddart
(signed) Dav Lyell


The Inventory of David Geddes

David Geddes - Stamp 160 - 31st Jany 1867

At Edinburgh the thirty first day and January in the year eighteen hundred and sixty seven the following inventory of the personal estate of the deceased David Geddes & Deed relative to the disposal thereof were presented by Donald Horne W.S.

Inventory of the personal estate of the late David Geddes Esquire, who resided at number fifteen Salisbury Road Newington Edinburgh and who died there on the sixth day of January eighteen hundred and sixty seven.

Scotland

sd
1.Cash in the house7210
2.Household furniture silver plate & other effects in the deceased's house conform to Appraisement thereof by Thomas Chapman Licensed Appraisers Edinburgh dated 15th January 18674639-
3.Balance due to the deceased on Account current with the British Linen Company's Bank with
Interest to date of death2191211
Interest to date of Oath to inventory-55
219184
4.200 of the capital stock of the British Linen Company - value at date of Oath to inventory @ 2131 per cent4620--
5.Twenty four 25 shares of the Edinburgh Gas Company - value at date of Oath to inventory @48.1151--
6.Shares in the Edinburgh Water Company viz
22 4/5 25 shares of original stock @33/10/- value at date of Oath to inventory76316-
29 New Stock Do, 12/10/- value at date of Oath to inventory @ 17/2/6496126
24 Do. New Quarter Stock 6/5/- shares value at date of Oath to inventory @ 8/6/619916-
25 Do. New Quarter Stock 1856 6/5/- shares value at date of Oath to inventory @ 8/6/620826
23 Do. New Quarter Stock 1863 6/5/- each 10/- paid, value at date of Oath to inventory @ 1/8/-324-
170011-
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816312

England

sd
Policy of insurance for 400 on the life of Colin M. Fraser dated 14th November 1827 by the Clerical and Medical Life Assurance Society marked A. No.306 held by deceased conform to Translation in his favor by John Wishart and the said C. M. Fraser dated 11th and intimated to the company 19th November 1847, value on 24th January 1867 estimated at 2952-
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845832

(signed) Dav Lyell of Horne


At Edinburgh the twenty fourth day of January eighteen hundred and sixty seven, in presence of Donald Horne Esquire Writer to the Signet one of her Majesty's Justice of the Peace for the County of Caithness Appeared David Lyell Writer in Edinburgh who being solemnly sworn and examined Deposes:

That the deceased David Geddes who resided at number fifteen Salisbury Road Newington Edinburgh died there on the sixth day of January eighteen hundred and sixty seven, and had at the time of his death his ordinary or principal domecile in the county of Edinburgh.

That the deponent along with Major John Geddes forty fourth Regiment, Andrew David Geddes formerly Lieutenant now Captain twenty seventh (Inniskilling) Regiment presently in India, nephews of the deceased, and James Stoddart residing at Fox Hill Halewood nar Liverpool have entered upon the possession & management of the estate as executors nominated by the deceased in a general disposition and Deed of Settlemnt executed by him upon the twenty fifth day of July eighteen hundred and sixty six, which is now Exhibited & signed by the deponent and the said Justice of the Peace as relative hereto.

That the deponent does not know of any Testamentory Settlement or Writing relative to the disposal of the deceased's personal estate or effects or any part thereof other than that now exhibited

That the foregoing inventory signed by the deponent and the said Justice of the Peace as relative hereto is a full and complete inventory of the personal estate and effects of the said deceased David Geddes wheresoever situated and belonging or due to him beneficially at the time of his death

That the deponent does not know of any money or property belonging to the deceased liable to the duty imposed by the Acts 23 Victoria Chapter 80.

That the value at this date of the said personal estate and effects situated in the United Kingdom and proceeds thereon to this date is eight thousand pounds sterling and under nine thousand pounds sterling.

That Confirmation of the said personal estate is required in favour of the deponent and the said John Geddes, Andrew David Geddes and James Stoddart as Executors, All which is truth as the deponent shall answer to God.

(signed) Dav Lyell
(signed) D. Horne J.P.


At Edinburgh the eleventh day of October in the year eight hundred and sixty seven the following additional inventory of the personal estate of the deceased David Geddes was presented by Donald Horne S.S.

Additional inventory of the personal estate wheresoever situated of David Gedded Esquire who resided at number fifteen Salisbury Road Newington Edinburgh & who died there upon the sixth day of January eighteen hundred and sixty seven.

Amount of the estate wheresover given up in the inventory recorded in the Commissory Court Book of Edinburgh on the 31st day of January 1867 8458-3-2

Effects omitted

Scotland

sd
1.Debt amounting originally to 667/15/8 and upon which a Dividend at the rate of 11d in the will be paid annually during the life of the debtor Mr Colin Mackenzie Fraser A.C.S. - Mr. Fraser is a gentleman in his 73rd year and an annuity on a life of 72 for 32-7-4 the amount of the annual Dividend is201192
2.
Dividend upon the above debt received upon the 9th day of April 18673274
Interest thereon to date-1210
33-2
Amount of added estate 234/19/4.
Note: The deceased had no Books showing the Existance of this debt, and it was not discovered until after the inventory was recorded
869326

Note: Inventory duty on the total estate wheresoever situated is 160. The duty paid on the former inventory 160. The duty on the additional inventory. Nil.

(signed) Dav Lyell
(signed) D. Horne J.P.


At Edinburgh the eighth day of October eighteen hundred and sixty seven in presence of Donald Horne Esquire one of his Majesty's Justices of the Peace for the County of Caithness, appeared David Lyell Writer in Edinburgh one of the executors nominated by the said David Geddes, who being solemnly sworn & examined, deposes

That the foregoing is an additional inventory of the personal estate wheresover situated of the said deceasaed David Geddes as ascertained (discovered) since the thirty first day of January last eighteen hundred and sixty seven when the original (of) inventory of the deceased's estate was recorded in the Books of the Commissary Court of the Commission of Edinburgh

That the deponent has not discovered any other estate or effects belonging to the deceased

That the said inventory which is signed as relative hereto is a full and true inventory of all the personal or moevable estate or effects of the said deceased wheresoever situated already recovered or known to be existing belonging or due to him beneficially at the time of his death in so far as the same has come to the deponent's knowledge.

That the value at this date of the said personal estate & effects situated in the United Kingdom including the proceeds accrued on the additional property given up in this inventory down to this date is eight thousand pounds sterling & under nine thousand pounds sterling

That confirmation of the said personal estate given up in this additional inventory which amounts with the proceeds accrued thereon down to this date to two hundred pounds sterling & under three hundred pounds sterling is required in favour of Major John Geddes forty fourth Regiment and Andrew David Geddes Lieutenant now Captain twenty seventh Inniskilling Regiment presently in India, nephews of the deceased, James Stoddart residing at Foxhill Halewood near Liverpool and the said David Lyell, the executors nominated of the said deceased.

All which is truth as the deponent shall answer to God.

(signed) Dav Lyell
(signed) D. Horne J.P.